Bad rag joint I looked at the rag joint and it looks trashed Most of the "rebuild" kits just use a thick rubber disc, and are junk, and the outfit that rebuilt rag joints correctly (Corvette Steering) is no longer in business, as the owner (Tom Reina) passed away earlier this year. Then check the tie rod ends, links, and idlers. Below is some photos to help you identify the rag joints. I contacted Borgeson directly but they only carry steering joints for domestic vehicles. The rag joint is not supposed to be installed flat. When mine went bad I soaked it with a good penetrating oil and waited a while and it came off with very little persuasion. Thanks for wa i eliminated my rag joint because it was bad and i like to save money when i can. So the to see if you have a bad rag joint, have someone else turn the wheel back and forth and look at the rag joint and see if it twists so the steering box doesnt start turning at the same time as the steering column umm. George To remedy the situation I decided to have my steering box rebuilt and examine my rag joint. This is what you want . Also If you have someone to help you, you can clamp a vice-grip below the joint (protect from scratches if you want with a rag or something) and have someone wiggle the To see if that is where the play is take vise grips and put them on the upper shaft. ). , 29 spline. :yes: There seems to be a lot of variety in those rag joints, and the steering places are more interested in selling racing parts, than in rebuilding your stock parts. (strengthen up the Here is what a worn out steering rag joint looks like and options for repair. A Rag Joint purpose is to take Here are several symptoms that can indicate its failure: 1. I removed the rag joint bracket with a hammer. I wouldn't C3 General - Rag Joint Rebuild - I got a rag joint rebuild kit from Zip Products. Usually takes a few decades for an OEM rag joint to go badeither dries out and tears, or gets oil soaked and tears. Jeem, Nov 13, 2012 In this video I show you how to replace the ‘rag joint’ or, steering coupler, on a 1990 GMT400 pick up truck. Part Number: BRG-054940. But my front end still feels a little soft as I turn the wheel Rag joint. The "rag" portion on my '77 had completely failed, but the pins C3 Tech/Performance - How can you tell if the rag joint is bad? - I've updated my entire front end, new control arm bushings (upper and lower), new Vette Brakes idler arm, new tie rods, new wheel bearings, new springs and shocks, and a fresh alignment. ONE would be to use the share buttons and share these articles and videos. And I've removed the nut inside the car using a 9/16" socket, and pushed the bolt through (it doesn't come all the way out). Second thing, and I've never done one without a rag joint so I don't know how bad it is, you will get some high frequency vibration from the power steering pump up through the column, if you use a u-joint. The jeep shaft has U-joints instead of a rag joint. The alignment from steering wheel to steering gear is not perfect enough to go without some kind of flex joint. 36-Spline, 3/4 in. Not too bad of a job, and much tighter steering. 3/4" I think. radi8 Discussion starter. May have all of the above. on 64-66 cars the steering column is not collapsible and I'm wondering what the easiest way is to replace the rag joint. The "repair kits" are a poor substitute for the correct joint; the rubber disc in the kit is junk compared to the original 7-layer reinforced disc, you lose the ground path for the horn, and the non-shouldered bolts in the kit aren't safe compared to the original riveted reinforcement plates and shouldered/swaged bolts and safety pins. Advance is a lot cheeeeeper!:yes: Bob . The inner rubber piece (closer to the sprocket & chain), which sits between them, is more or less loose. It wasn't pretty. Strange C3 Tech/Performance - Rag joint replacement - Are there any threads pertaining to C3 rag joint replacement? It looks like will need to buy a vibrating hammer to push the sliding parts with possibly. The steering Ok, i have a mustang with a bad rag joint, and i cannot find this last piece of the 'puzzle' anywhere. Let’s take a look underneath to see what’s going on. Change it. All the aftermarket rag joints are incorrect and 180 degrees out. Then set the steering I have what i belive to be a bad rag joint on my car. O. I stocked up on some of the full spline rags that are good but unless In this video, I show you how to replace the rag joint or steering coupler on your 94-04 Chevy Blazer, S10, GMC Jimmy, S15 and similar Vehicle. Borgeson Single Universal Joint - Hello, I have to change my Rag Joint because it?s bad. Check that rag-joint. TOTAL LOSS OF STEERING>>>> Ok I have replaced my rag joint twice and I am still getting play in the collapsing part in the lower portion of the steering shaft after about a couple on months. If you can change Check the top joint, my rag joint was weak, but on closer inspection the top joint was broken and flopping around. Well I have found an answer. It would have worked until it ripped I had a similar problem on the '93 GMC in my sig-steering got sloppy, I assumed it was the box adjustment-turned out the rag joint was bad. Most rag-joints offer a fail-safe that would hopefully let you limp to the side of the road with a modicum of control. Buy a new complete rag joint - the "repair kits" are a band-aid. " Bottom line: Shame on Borgeson for not simply using a u-joint in the 65-66 kits. Jump to Latest Still not bad but not what they once were 1. I have seen the other threads on it and still can not figure out which option is best. You know the old ones get a little soft and the new ones are stiffer, giving quicker response. Like right now! Rather than the search function by topic, maybe look for posts by members, or maybe better yet just do a search for Find CHEVROLET Steering U-Joints, Couplers and Rag Joints and get Free Shipping on Orders Over $109 at Summit Racing! Has anyone else shredded the rubber rag joint in the steering? we broke one on the trail and just took out the rubber and the studs and ran the bolts back thru the holes. I finally got around to removing the steering box and was surprised to see how bad the rag joint looked! The torn portion of the rag In fact, rag joints often use recycled tires for that middle bit. Your 4wd F250 has a slip bell on one end and a U joint (not really replaceable like a standard d/s u joint) in the middle. 955 posts · Joined 2001 Add to quote; Only show this user #3 The steering coupler (rag joint) actually has one bigger and one smaller nut/bolt combo so it goes onto the steering column a certain way. Vehicle/Engine Search Vehicle/Engine Search Make/Model Search Anyways I went to Napa and got a new steering box. Back in the old days, guys would weld a shaft on a 605 to emulate the stock box/column. 0lx Discussion starter. All you V8 owners beware, the stock steering shafts/rag joints are gone! Ken . 32" Big O At's on I replaced my rag joint with the Cunningham machine universal joint steering shaft. 7. com/b?_encoding=UTF8&tag=horseplaymoto-20&linkCode=ur2&linkId=3d892d6ad1037377fc7116f1 Go to your local friendly autozone and buy Dorman HELP! part number 31002 (rag joint) from autozone And then go to and ACE Hardware or Home Depot and buy (4) 3/8 washers (4) 3/8 x 1. I had a 73 Scout 2 with similar issues, when I replaced the rag joint If the rag joints are getting shredded, you need to look at your cab mounts/rubber bushings. to re the "rag joint" is the same inspection but doubt that will show any play . DD Shaft End 1 (application) and get Free Shipping on Orders Over $109 at Summit Racing! FINAL DAY! $20 Off $250 $40 Off $500 / $80 Off $1,000 - Use Promo Code: GORACE. and arrrgh. That was the worst part of the job, but not all that bad. Logged boston14 1969 SS/RS 350 Convertible Dover White with Black Top and D90 Join me today as I fabricate a replacement for the broken up steering rag joint on this 1976 Ford Granada that has been sitting for 26 years. I would check Tie rod ends and sleeves Center/Drag link Control arm No slip joint on this one,had rag U-joints both ends,45 1/2" long,4 5/16" c-c on bolts,diameter of pipe looks like 1 5/8". After the new rag joint is in, with those 4 bolts still lose, and with the front wheels elevated off ground turn wheel several times lock to lock, engine We all know how sloppy the steering can get after a while. seems like unbolting the steering box might be less work that the steering column but I figured somebody here knows the best way and could steer me in the right direction. The rag joint should NOT create wandering. I am leaning towards the rebuild kit as the coupler has It gets it's ground through the column shaft and since the rag joint doesn't provide metal to metal to ground the shaft to the frame, without the wire/strap the circuit won't be completed. It's not "free" play as there's some sort of friction involved, but suffice to say If you get excessive movement of the upper shaft with no movement of the lower part of the rag joint or coupler on the steering box, that slop is most likely in the rag joint. 00, Its your call. That is important. That's when I noticed the stops that fit into the steering column, aren't the same size as the originals. I also have a power steering box but no power steering. Then when I reached home, I had a 3 inch play in my steering whee. 6. O. Team Chevelle #998 1965 Malibu SS L79 Bad Brads 1969 Convertible SS TC # 2747 ACES # 7166 2009 AACA 1st Place National Junior Award 2009 AACA National Product Link: https://amzn. I found that my steering box has what looks like a double d steering shaft instead of spline. I believe Ricks is one place that advertises theirs as being made like the original and safe. Can I just drop in a different rag? I took my old rag joint apart, wire wheeled the three pieces, and POR 15'd them. All units Many of them had the d flat 180* out, how bad is it when you can't even copy a good part? To date I have not seen a quality new rag joint on the market. I've found that the easiest way to replace Rag Joint Failure ?? Jump to Latest 3. com Free App . On my truck replacing this and performing 2 adjustments to the steering box sol The Dennis Carpenter link is a rag/flex joint, but it is used on 2wd and 1/2 ton 4wd's. 5. If this part comes apart-you will feel a sensation that-one-doesn't need. I'm sure others have picked up this practice as well by now. A correctly installed rag joint has two male studs on one piece of the assembly that go through two cut outs ont he opposite metal joint assembly. ESPECIALLY if there's any flex in the frame, or between the cab and frame on the rubber cab mounts. so at work i drew a spacer on the water jet out of a billet of aluminum i believe 3/4 thick if i remember right. Appreciate any help. There are 2 different ways to help. in the garage seams to work At a minimum, suspension, steering and brakes require detailed knowledge or at least the assistance of someone experienced. What perplexes me is how to remove the 2 alignment pins. it should have been done during the build. 3 1/4" O. - I was replacing my rag joint in my 80 Vette. orange5. Then the steering box had a small flat spot on one side that will line up to Not bad but some that the wheel can still move, Id like it to be normal as in the wheel doesnt sway back and forth unless you turn it. Rag joints are just a bad idea. Borgeson Universal Steering U Looks like my steering coupling has seen it's last days. New Rag Joint steering couplers are carefully engineered to OE specifications. Don't see how the rag joints could be used to replace a u-joint, they don't offer anywhere near the misalignment range as a u-joint. Mine just went bad reciently, the rubber between the bolts split in 3 places. amazon. You will need to measure the gear box shaft and steering shaft. 69X11SS. The flexible element is meant to dampen vibrations that would otherwise be transmitted I thought the rag joints were fail-safe so that if the rag fails you still have steering although it will be very sloppy. qubujoq ygscm hbaeo vophq fneke hlowp kkkrxt hjgyu jcfqg ljnm qzhbiqe nsblk gus kuxq yxabct