Kioti injector pump problems forum.
Kioti injector pump problems forum I had the same issue with the IMV valve and was able to find an inexpensive replacement. Love the size and horsepower. Based on posts on the owner-operator forum, this problem seems to effect 2005-2008 models. I know it sounds crazy, but I bleed the filter well before I tighten it and I bleed the line to the fuel pump. May be a problem with the lift pump, but removing the supply line at the injection pump and checking flow will help eliminate any problem upstream. It took me about 6 1/2 hours from start to finish but the first hour was cleaning. They it had a fuel leak on the injection pump and when they started it it would run wide open and to get it to shut off they would half to shut the fuel off. Multiple injection pump failures have been reported on this site so I'd like to start a survey to collect data on these costly and frustrating failures. It would randomly just die like it was starving for fuel. No hard starting or hard running, no issues with acceleration, no funny noises. B. I disassembled the injection pump and reassembled it without the cam follower springs. However, Kioti tractors aren’t immune to problems. Aug 28, 2012 · Hi, In April, I bought a new Kioti Mechron 2200 UTV from my local dealer. Nov 15, 2022 · Diesel engines are not all the same in how they fire their injectors, some will use a setup like you describe, where the diesel injector pump increases the pressure for each injector at just the right time, exceeding the pressure set for the injector, and then the injector fires, others have a pump that pressurizes the injectors at a constant Re: CK 25 gear, injector pump -----Thanks Lexgs for all your information. What affected the rating was an injector pump failure, ignition switch failure and a bucket that doesn't come back far enough. The most common Kioti tractor problems are dull blades, problematic transmission, fuel system issues, hydraulic problems, engine issues, electrical problems, and PTO problems. Feb 7, 2020 · hi all. Nov 24, 2013 · Forums. I am having trouble locating a parts schematic for the injection pump (New Holland part #87802533), from my research it appears to be a Bosch VE6 May 6, 2018 · Here is the update. Oct 8, 2013 · The next step after getting the fuel filter full and tightening the bleeders screw is the loosen the three injector lines on the injector pump. Why 2 years later Kioti upgraded to a new style injection pump and different injectors is beyond me unless they had problems with the early ones. Aug 30, 2022 · I have a Kioti CS2410 which will crank but not fire. bubbazoo New Oct 14, 2019 · Hello: New guy here looking for some help. Thanks in advance. it has new air filter, fuel filter and o ring, fuel has been drained and replaced, with some 911 added, oil checked for moisture Jun 26, 2019 · The earlyy NX series tractors use a different injection pump and injectors. The guy I bought it from said it had been setting up because of a problem. Grease went everywhere. Mar 31, 2007 · Joined Aug 6, 2017 Messages 4,797 Location Mineola, TX Tractor Kioti LK2554, Branson 4815C, Satoh Beaver, Speedex Oct 20, 2021 · Well I am replying to my own post as know one has responded to my request for help with my Kioti LB 1914 daedong tractor no start issue. by LouNY. Loosen the steel feed lines from the pump to the injectors, AT THE INJECTORS. Jul 1, 2009 · Joined Oct 30, 2009 Messages 5,869 Location Jefferson County, Mo, about 35 miles out of St Tractor Bobcat CT235, Bad Boy z-turn, Suzuki Vinson 500 and F-150 Forums. A few Oct 16, 2014 · Joined May 4, 2009 Messages 7,641 Location Southern VT Tractor 22 SANY SY 50U, '10 Kioti DK 40se/hst KL-401 FEL, loaded tires, KB-2485 bhoe, Tuffline TB160 BB, Woods QA forks, MIE Hydraulic bhoe thumb & ripper tooth, Igland 4001 winch, & GR-20 Log Grapple. anyhow the tractor started skipping or starving for fuel when it got warm. Mar 12, 2024 · Due to contaminated fuel, I need to replace all 3 injectors. The tractor (and pump) has 380hrs on it. There have been some who have had injector pump problems but the engine reacted differently. Kioti. I purchased it new in February of 2008. Filled with fresh No 1 diesel. Oct 16, 2014 · I took the pump back apart and checked lift of the fuel cam lobes. 87 fuse! A freaking fuse on a DIESEL INJECTOR PUMP. Jun 27, 2023 · I have a 2006 ck20 that I bought not running. I transferred the same amount of cam lift to the injection pump as the cam lobes would, and found the problem. Talked to a Kioti mechanic and found a local injector repair shop although I ended repairing using the thread at the top of this forum. Will not buy another one because of it as well. Expensive lesson, but better than an injector pump. Jul 23, 2013 · I have read about problems with many of kioti's injection pumps, but I thought the 2008 and newer models were supposed to be "fixed" If I remember right it was something about a spring loaded plunger that would snap back too fast and break at the no 4 fuel outlet area (inside the pump). The cam follower pushrod was bottoming in the P&B and jamming the rack. Has Kioto offered to help with these repairs? Nov 11, 2008 · Joined May 4, 2009 Messages 7,641 Location Southern VT Tractor 22 SANY SY 50U, '10 Kioti DK 40se/hst KL-401 FEL, loaded tires, KB-2485 bhoe, Tuffline TB160 BB, Woods QA forks, MIE Hydraulic bhoe thumb & ripper tooth, Igland 4001 winch, & GR-20 Log Grapple. Old fuel line, fails more by collapsing than leaking. I pulled the oil dipstick and it was way over full and smelled of diesel. Oct 5, 2003 · Yep, the injector pump is controlled by a computer and a fuse had blown. Apr 26, 2021 · Kioti CS2410 rpm running problem Jump to Latest 4. If she doesn't start then you have another problem, not air in the lines. 2006 Dk45SC 2200 hours: Started having starting problems first, occasionally requiring 2-3 turns of the key before fuel would flow. I generally have to break the fuel lines at the injectors to bleed the air out of the lines. He said the “cam” for the injector pump had been replaced and it was not “timed” correctly. Dealer picked it up Thursday and it was sitting in my driveway yesterday when I got home. I used a vaccuum pump to fill the fuel lines all the way to the banjo bolt on the side of the fuel rail. If every think else is known to be good, then you have an injection pump problem. I believe it is the same issue show here. I have a great personal relationship with the dealer so Im sure they will help me trouble shoot before I have to bring it in to them. My questions Its tractors are well-known for high performance, durability, and compatibility. Unfortunately, I am still an amateur mechanic, and I really screwed up today. If it does not look at the filter back. By way of background, a number of Kioti owners with 2005-2008 model tractors reported injection pump failures and the cause was usually broken teeth on the gears that control the amount of injected fuel. Purchased tractor in june of 2006. rtkman; Jan 15, 2025; 6 The Fora platform includes forum software by Mar 3, 2024 · I have a 3910 Ford that I have had problems with after changing the fuel filter. Suspected a relay issue. Thread starter sherrym; Start date Jul 11, 2012; Mar 31, 2013 · Just as you said it takes surplus fuel from the injectors and runs it back to the tank. Nov 9, 2011 · In short, Joel reports success repairing a Kioti Doowan injection pump (IP) with broken gear teeth using the standard Zexel parts he has in stock. This information will be most useful if you respond only after your failure is completely resolved. It was running at Mar 19, 2017 · inline filter, and drained fuel tank. 87 for a fuse and I'm actually happy about it because it could have been something serious and (more) expensive. Does Nov 29, 2014 · I am not sure if I have the Injector Pump problem that I have read about on this forum, but I have a Kioti CK25 with under 200 hours. Jan 9, 2004 · Kioti NX4510 2017 Alternator Problem. 1 month ago i had the same problemi got the rod unstuck and it started but ran bad. Kioti had a serious design flaw in there injector pumps from 05-08 and there should have been a recall IMO. The fuel pump on the side of the motor does not pump much fuel, barely a trickle comes out while cranking. But we now know that this is a common Zexel (formerly Bosch) agricultural injection pump and parts are readily available for repairing it. 5. Kioti LK35 Injector Pump Solenoid Problem Jun 18, 2015 / Kioti LK35 Injector Pump Solenoid Problem #7 . Bled out canister and verified fuel is being pumped to the canister filter. Feb 3, 2025. item #3 which you can't see in the picture is the Aug 5, 2023 · I'm just trying to find any potential problems I'm missing that aren't a $1500 injection pump. Nov 22, 2013 · As this sticky thread seems the most relevant place to post, here's yet another injector pump failure story (abridged version). Make sure that you have adequate fuel flow from the tank. Dec 4, 2011 · Fuel should flow freely. Jun 21, 2012 · Also opened bleed bolt on injector pump and plenty of fuel. I am a fairly decent mechanic but I am stumped. Any help on locating a reasonably priced injector would be appreciated. The tractor (and pump) has 280hrs on it. This next picture below is looking inside of the oil flange after removal and towards the front of the engine. I really like this tractor but the down time is killing me. Taken hose off at fuel injector and when i run the pump, diesel flows. Removed fuel line from lift pump and got good fuel flow out of lift pump. I motored it over after putting new Sep 13, 2014 · Glad you got it going, I have been working on them for 5 years, not that many failed, that's not much help if yours did, there are diesel injector shops that are able to rebuild them now, tho I'm not sure the cost but one person told me it was about half of the cost of a new pump, and that is here in Missouri, but the pump that is used on the Kioti is being used on a lot of other tractors so I May 23, 2023 · Im pretty sure its a gravity system but there is a round part on the engine near the injector pump that looks like a diaphragm pump, I will check that as well. Even better, control sleeve replacement does not require special tools or re-calibration, if done right. It's about a 1999-2000 model and has a 3 cylinder diesel engine. Good Luck. Kioti Owning/Operating . 3K views 2 replies 3 participants last post by dave_r Apr 4, 2022 Oct 14, 2016 · For the most part I really enjoy this tractor. I'm just trying to find any potential problems I'm missing that aren't a $1500 injection pump. Does anyone know if kioti was still putting injector pumps with plastic gears on dk45s in 2006? Called kioti today and was told to talk to dealer, but had already talked to dealer and mechanic twice and they insist it is bad fuel. I spoke to the dealer who is a real stand up guy - one of the reasons I bought the Kioti in the first place. it has new air filter, fuel filter and o ring, fuel has been drained and replaced, with some 911 added, oil checked for moisture Nov 22, 2013 · The local Kioti dealer quoted me $2020 CAD for a new pump, approx $700 for a rebuild, plus labour and float charges! Thank you to TBN, ritcheyvs and 2881neches for doing such a great job documenting this Kioti issue. I put a nylon tie strap on it to hold it until the Nov 3, 2011 · My Kioti CK 20S is in for repair right noe for injector pump failure. Move on down the line to you get to the injector pump. Most times at this point the tractor will start so tighten the injector lines down and go to Apr 26, 2021 · Kioti CS2410 rpm running problem Jump to Latest 4. Can I A forum community dedicated to all tractor owners and enthusiasts. Jun 11, 2007 · Others, who may have had a similar problem, hopefully will post their repair. Other than that, hard to say what the problem is right off hand with the information you supplied. I was hoping someone els might have a 1995 year model LB 1914 Kioti tractor like mine and ran into the same conditions on a no start daedong deism engine that came with this tractor when it was first sold in North Carolina in 1995. The local Kioti dealer and the company would provide no help except trying to sell me a new pump for over a thousand dollrs. A new IP is costly (vicinity of $1000-2000) so this is not a trivial repair. and spin the engine to see if fuel squirts out. Mar 17, 2004 · Well my time was up yesterday my CK 30 injector pump went. If it’s equipped. Dealer replaced it under warranty. The rod stopped moving and was jammed. I used the tractor Saturday morning for about 2 hours and went to put it in the garage, wouldnt start again. Jun 14, 2008 · 4. Not sure where to go from here I have a CK25 2006 Kioti with 214 hours on it when the fuel injector broke and when a local tractor repair place took it apart it had chipped teeth on the gear. R. That was going to be the next thing I was going to do but as it turns out I just heard from my dealer, he called Kioti and told them the problem. I've had a runaway motor on my CK25 and out of commissioned it months ago. Jan 14, 2021 · I just was given a tractor. Several days ago I started it up and backed it out of the barn. total cost$10 for a new manifold gasket! Jun 26, 2019 · The earlyy NX series tractors use a different injection pump and injectors. Feb 5, 2002 · His injector pump failed (stripped gears) like so many others made from 2005-08. Nov 9, 2011 · For those considering a Kioti tractor: Most owners are very satisfied with their tractors but be aware that several current owners have experienced injection pump failures. Nov 2, 2010 · The reason I'm asking this is I'm looking at Lk3054 and the previous owner sez the rpm's on this tractor went high and the only way they could shut it down was to cut off the fuel supply, don't know how long it ran like that, I'm getting it at good price but this last bit of info concerns me, there was a post on here from a couple years ago that someone had the same trouble, the tractor will Mar 7, 2016 · The last thing you should be concerned about is the injection pump! Most problems with diesels have to do with the fuel delivery system from the tank to the injector pump inlet. if u shut it off w a key, u have a solenoid. I have no smoke when it cranks. Loosened injector fuel line and got no fuel being pumped out of injector pump. The thread is pretty thorough and explained a lot. Nov 22, 2013 · The local Kioti dealer quoted me $2020 CAD for a new pump, approx $700 for a rebuild, plus labour and float charges! Thank you to TBN, ritcheyvs and 2881neches for doing such a great job documenting this Kioti issue. I may have had a different opinion had the injector pump been covered by the warranty though. It started Mar 23, 2011 · According to Kioti the only fix is a whole new injection pump, costing $1000 and up. I have New Holland TV-145 an the injection pump has developed a slow drip, does not seem to affect the machine while running but would like to fix it. Come join the discussion about farming, lawn maintenance, restoration, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Mar 12, 2013 · If all else fails, crack open each injector line right before it's injector one at a time. The first day I had it, I was backing up and a stick went up into the front-right CVC boot and it knocked the boot off (metal strap and all). make sure the vent in the fuel cap is not obstructed. 3K views 2 replies 3 participants last post by dave_r Apr 4, 2022 Oct 8, 2013 · The next step after getting the fuel filter full and tightening the bleeders screw is the loosen the three injector lines on the injector pump. Turn the engine over until fuel flows out to insure all the air is purged from that line, then tighten the nut an proceed to the next injector line. Nov 15, 2022 · Diesel engines are not all the same in how they fire their injectors, some will use a setup like you describe, where the diesel injector pump increases the pressure for each injector at just the right time, exceeding the pressure set for the injector, and then the injector fires, others have a pump that pressurizes the injectors at a constant Jun 17, 2023 · Since my old man passed, I've been learning mechanics as a necessity to keep farming and this forum has been a godsend. Jun 20, 2012 · Thanks to another forum member for messaging me I opened up the oil fill flange, the piece in the picture below with the orange cap which is mounted just in front of the injection pump. Kioti DK65S Lift Pump. Oct 2, 2022 · U first need to determine if the inj pump is pumping fuel up to the injectors. Also. A fuse!! A $273. Nov 9, 2011 · Fellow Kioti owners and operators. . I hope this helps. Fired right up. Oil & Fuel dk45s Oil & Fuel dk45s injector pump problems at 500 hrs. Nov 9, 2011 · Kioti tractors with the new stop solenoid design built between 2005 and 2008 were vulnerable to injection pump failures caused by broken gear teeth on the injection pump control sleeves. I have a steady flow of fuel using the vaccuum pump, but when I turn the tractor over, barely a trickle comes out. Apparently the glow plug tips also broke off. OEMs are about $900 each. I called Kioti because i knew that i wasnt the only one that had this problem. I tried bleeding lines again but I have no fuel at the injector now. If not, check the shut off solenoid. After researching, I figured it was the fuel injection pump. had lack of power. This did not occur in the earlier design that used an external stop solenoid or in later models after 2008. Aug 10, 2012 · I had it for 3-4 years with 300 to 400 hours on it and the injection pump went. He has always been very pleased with the tractor till now. He thinks it is a problem with the electrical side of the fuel pump system and has picked the tractor up to check it out. I'd hate to think that it's a complete failure of the fuel injection pump. I was using it for a couple of hours yesterday and then again for 45 minutes today with no problem. It led to incidents of out of control very high RPMs. It doesn't run at the moment. $273. total cost$10 for a new manifold gasket! Oct 18, 2024 · So we bought a kioti ck2610 a few years ago new after maybe a couple hundred hours it developed a very annoying problem. So now, I bleed the injector lines before I try to start it. I have replaced fuel filter and fuel pump. They removed a shim from the injection pump and it runs better than ever. Next turn the engine over in 3-5 second intervals until you see fuel coming out of the loose injector lines. Is it under warranty? I would start with the injectors but the hard part is which one being that it is intermittent. Most times at this point the tractor will start so tighten the injector lines down and go to Its tractors are well-known for high performance, durability, and compatibility. Jan 19, 2018 · inline filter, and drained fuel tank. Very disappointed because it never should have happened I don't blame him. May 13, 2022 · Much more going on than the old 6610 with the Lucas or Simms injection pump. I called the dealer and they walked me through bleeding the fuel line at the filter, lifter pump, and injector return line. Look at your fuel line. not sure the year we can't find the manual, might be on id tag somewhere. Jun 17, 2023 · Since my old man passed, I've been learning mechanics as a necessity to keep farming and this forum has been a godsend. Other than the no start, it hasn't displayed any symptoms that indicate any problems. I bought a used Kioti LK3054 and have put a couple hours on it mowing a little and moving it around the farm. This seems to have happened fairly often and is due to defective manufacturing or design. It runs smoother, quieter and has a bit more power too. Apr 27, 2021 · Wouldnt restart. rwgs qbrhh cyx isbf pqwbw kbmg zsbyl ifv ppghe blftf qsq teqdfrd uyulv eemu unvqfxx